Legendary TonesLogin or Sign Up. Join the HC Newsletter. Search in titles only Search in Amps only Search. Running an EQ pedal through your FX loop Previous 1 2 Next. So, I was talking to this other guitar player at a gig on Friday.
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As most of you probably know by now, I'm looking for a new amp right now, and I'm really considering getting a Vox AC15 1x12 once I have saved enough money. But, one thing that bothers me about it just a tad is that there is no effects loop. I'm probably going to get an EQ pedal to use with the amp, since it doesn't have 3 band on-board EQ, and I really like to be able to control my midrange. Is an EQ pedal going to do the trick out front?
What are your opinions, gents? Thank you all for your advice. It's great to have a place where I can ask experienced guitar players questions like this. While you are at the store give a couple of pedals and amps a test run using your guitar In our band neither of us use the effects loop.
I play a Boogie he plays a JCM half stack. I dont use an EQ pedal. My Boogie has a built in graphic. So can a auto Mechanic. With equalization, less is more, and it is often better to cut than to boost. If you find that you need very specific tone-shaping, or have an issue with a particular frequency range, you might want a Parametric EQ, where you can dial in the desired frequency bands, rather than the fixed bands of a Graphic EQ.
Boss has never made another device with the numeral '4', ever again. Here's a link where you can look at a dozen different EQ pedals. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win. And Winston Psmith, I'll probably get the amp and use if for a while, and then decide if I want to throw an EQ in front of it later. A lot of hotels used to not have 4th floors in Japan.
Four is treated sort of same way some westerners treat Four is pronounced 'Shi'. Which is also a way to say death. I found the homophones really difficult to keep straight in Nihongo.
When you check into the hospital room 4 would not give you a warm pleasant feeling. I stick all my pedals between the guitar and amp. Even when I was using a modeller I put that in front of the amp as well that way I could use the on board amp eq if needed.
I would think an EQ will work as well that way too. It is easy and makes for a quicker load out. Somethings work much better before the preamp like distortion and overdrive and Wah pedals. It is just easier to put everything in one place. I quit using rack stuff in the 90s. This is not a big deal if you just play electric guitar. Guitar setup and tear down is easy it is all the keyboard stuff that takes the most time. So I streamline where I can.
I never found an amp that sounded right to me or better using the effects loop and always use pedals in front - including SS and tube amps. I would say it depends on how you intend to set the EQ. The idea of an effects loop is at least partially to keep the incipient noise a pedal makes from being increased by the preamp section of your amplifier. EQs will produce more noise in the bands you push up, and that noise will be amplified. If you are going to cut freqs more than boost them, in front is probably okay.
If you plan to boost any freqs very much, I'd say go with the loop. If it doesn't bother you, go for whatever. Just like everyone else.
I agree that pedals straight in is usually great. My only quarm would be if the Vox's preamp is being overdriven - which is a beautiful thing - delay and reverbs are better in a loop Yes, I had been thinking about where I'm going to put a delay pedal in, because I want to get one.
I'm probably going to get a distortion pedal to put in front of the amp, because it doesn't get that much distortion on its own, so putting the delay after the distortion should help with some of that, but I don't know what I'm going to do if I want delay on some of the nice, dynamic, creamy overdrive that I can get when I push the gain on the Top Boost channel.
I might just have to cross that bridge when I come to it. I know that the AC30 has an effects loop already, but I honestly don't have that much money to work with, plus I hear the thing is a beast to have to carry around, I really don't need all that power, and it's going to be all that much harder to keep it from blowing the windows out of my room.
I use an AC15 and AC30 almost exclusively these days, and I just run the effects in front of the amp The AC30 has an effects loop and though I have a pedalsnake that would let me use the loop easily, I've never been moved to set it up and use it. I guess the appeal is that in modulation and time-based effects you're delaying or modulating the signal post-preamp. The way I play, I set the amp pretty clean and use pedals to add dirt to various degrees, so the delays and modulation effects coming after those dirt boxes in my signal chain achieve the same thing.
I think I've seen things about mods to add an effects loop to AC15s. Previous Topic Index Next Topic. Print Topic Switch to Threaded Mode. You are not logged in. EQ In front or in the effects loop? Caevan O'Shite 20k Club Registered: The Great Spirit's Handprint o I think it'll work just fine for you in front. Larryz 10k Club Registered: CEB 10k Club Registered: Bartholomew Senior Member Registered: Near 12th Street and Vine Bartholomew I never found an amp that sounded right to me or better using the effects loop and always use pedals in front - including SS and tube amps.
On my Hot Rod DeVille I can tell a big difference when I take everything out of the effects loop and just go in front with the pedals or sans pedals direct in. If you were local I would know the guy to send you to. I'd say if this is a real issue for you, you may want to reconsider your choice of amp.
A radical mod like that will also immediately void your warranty, and to be honest, the warranty is part of why you'd buy a new product, otherwise, used gear is usually a better value. Switch to Threaded Mode. Add to your Watched Users.